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BBC Watchdog 25 April 2018 and catchup
RS
2018-04-25 22:37:15 UTC
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A few days ago we discussed the possible effect of changes in the way
the BBC presented programme information on smart televisions. On
Watchdog this evening, about 28 minutes into the programme, there was an
item where people were complaining that catchup services, including the
iPlayer, had stopped working on their smart televisions.

What I found surprising was that an investigative BBC programme appeared
to have made no attempt to interview the iPlayer team about the causes
of the smart televisions' having ceased working.
RS
2018-04-25 22:58:55 UTC
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Post by RS
A few days ago we discussed the possible effect of changes in the way
the BBC presented programme information on smart televisions.  On
Watchdog this evening, about 28 minutes into the programme, there was an
item where people were complaining that catchup services, including the
iPlayer, had stopped working on their smart televisions.
What I found surprising was that an investigative BBC programme appeared
to have made no attempt to interview the iPlayer team about the causes
of the smart televisions' having ceased working.
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I posted that before I had downloaded the programme from the iPlayer.
The item is 25min 44s from the start of the programme. My first
sentence should read, "A few days ago we discussed the possible effect
on smart televisions of changes in the way the BBC presented programme
information."
Alan Milewczyk
2018-04-26 00:43:04 UTC
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Post by RS
A few days ago we discussed the possible effect of changes in the way
the BBC presented programme information on smart televisions.  On
Watchdog this evening, about 28 minutes into the programme, there was
an item where people were complaining that catchup services,
including the iPlayer, had stopped working on their smart televisions.
What I found surprising was that an investigative BBC programme
appeared to have made no attempt to interview the iPlayer team about
the causes of the smart televisions' having ceased working.
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http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
I posted that before I had downloaded the programme from the iPlayer.
The item is 25min 44s from the start of the programme. My first
sentence should read, "A few days ago we discussed the possible effect
on smart televisions of changes in the way the BBC presented programme
information."
These issues are nothing new. Technology moves on and manufacturers are
unwilling/unable to modify their equipment to keep them working. It
enables them to sell new items to a gullible public (not having a pop at
you).

We had it way back with the 405/625 switchover and more recently the
digital switch. A few years back DAB was introduced which, if the BBC FM
shutdown programme had continued to the original schedule would have
meant millions of radios with FM being rendered obsolete. In any case,
the vast majority of people who bought DAB radios will be unable to
receive DAB2 if that ever goes ahead (although I believe new models may
be able to). Early customers on Sky would have found their old boxes
unable to do HD when that was introduced.

I don't have a smart TV and wouldn't waste my money on one as I'm not
prepared to throw money down the drain when systems change and the TV
manufacturers decide they can't be bothered to upgrade older models.
It's far cheaper and easier upgrading a set top box. I've got a Humax
Freesat box which had the facility to watch BBC iPlayer and the ITV
equivalent - a year or so back the BBC changed the way iPlayer was made
available on satellite which rendered that facility useless on my set
top box. Mind you, it was pretty clunky in the first place, so I never
bothered using it. It's far easier doing iPlayer on my PC. If I want to
watch it on my TV, then I use the NVIDIA Shield. I've had my TV for
about 8 or 9 years now (32 inch Panasonic that's "HD ready") and from
day one it's been connected to my computer network. For the same reason
(flexibility), I never bothered with those "all in one box" music
centres, preferring to stick with separates, i.e. amplifier, tuner,
record deck, DVD player, etc.

I've spent a fair portion of my working life in IT and long appreciated
that things change (these days faster than ever) - for that reason I'm
unwilling to commit to hardware that isn't flexible enough to cope with
those changes. Also, beware of adopting "new technology", there's an old
expression in the industry, "pioneers risk getting arrows in their
backs!" What price 3D?

Just my tuppence.

Alan

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