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Don Grunbaum
2017-10-31 08:20:01 UTC
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Hi all

For some time I've been successfully downloading "The Unbelievable Truth" from Radio 4

I'm getting this message with one of the current episodes, and I'm puzzled why it's happening with this one and no others (1, 2 and 4 have downloaded without a problem)


44424: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4, b09d5nlb
INFO: 1 matching programmes

WARNING: No programmes are available for this PID with version(s): default
WARNING: PVR Run: '_The Unbelievable Truth_': 1 download failure(s)

I'm using the PVR on Windows 10, and the latest release 3.06.00.

I can download the Radio 4 Extra version, which has a different PID, without a problem.

I've tried changing the version to "original" with no success. Any ideas? Simply for my peace of mind, or in case it recurs in the future.

TIA

Don
Alan Milewczyk
2017-10-31 08:44:25 UTC
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Hi Don

If you go to the programme page at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007mf4f/episodes/guide you will see
that, for some reason, two "Episode 3"s are listed one of them being the
one in question. If you click on that episode there is a message saying
that "this episode is not available on iPlayer". However, the other
"Episode 3" IS available, so I would suggest that you download this one.

I download this programme but never using the PID so the issue never
arose and I see that pid b098hpjb downloaded successfully for me on 16th
October. I've no idea why they have two "Episode3"s listed, I've never
seen that before.

With this type of message it's always worthwhile going to the relevant
iPlayer page to check the status of the programme in question.

Regards

Alan
Post by Don Grunbaum
Hi all
For some time I've been successfully downloading "The Unbelievable Truth" from Radio 4
I'm getting this message with one of the current episodes, and I'm puzzled why it's happening with this one and no others (1, 2 and 4 have downloaded without a problem)
44424: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4, b09d5nlb
INFO: 1 matching programmes
WARNING: No programmes are available for this PID with version(s): default
WARNING: PVR Run: '_The Unbelievable Truth_': 1 download failure(s)
I'm using the PVR on Windows 10, and the latest release 3.06.00.
I can download the Radio 4 Extra version, which has a different PID, without a problem.
I've tried changing the version to "original" with no success. Any ideas? Simply for my peace of mind, or in case it recurs in the future.
TIA
Don
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RS
2017-10-31 09:05:57 UTC
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From: Alan Milewczyk
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:44 AM
I've no idea why they have two "Episode3"s listed, I've never seen that
before.
I have now done a search for "truth" and get this

41241: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 18 - Episode 2, BBC Radio 4 Extra,
b08lgq9j
41242: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 1, BBC Radio 4 Extra,
b096h777
41243: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 2, BBC Radio 4, b0978p0j
41244: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4 Extra,
b098hpjb
41245: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 4, BBC Radio 4, b099xs64
41246: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 5, BBC Radio 4, b09byhny

Best wishes
Richard
Don Grunbaum (Gmail)
2017-10-31 09:13:32 UTC
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Thanks to Alan and RS for the replies.

As I said in my original message, I can download the "alternative version" from Radio 4 Extra without a problem.

It seems curious that the BBC have made that one available and have withdrawn the original Radio 4 version - perhaps there was something in there that they have removed on the repeat?

Seems to have been noticed elsewhere https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2248093/the-unbelievable-truth-episode-3

ATB

Don
RS
2017-10-31 10:58:54 UTC
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From: Don Grunbaum (Gmail)
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:13 AM
Post by Don Grunbaum (Gmail)
As I said in my original message, I can download the "alternative version"
from Radio 4 Extra without a problem.
It seems curious that the BBC have made that one available and have
withdrawn the original Radio 4 version - perhaps there was something in
there that they have removed on the >repeat?
If it becomes necessary to edit a programme, the BBC usually creates an
editorial (and sometimes editorial2) version.

If you look at the search results in my previous post, episode 1 is also
pointing to the Radio 4 Extra PID.

If you look at the By Date results on this page
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007mf4f/broadcasts/2017/10

and go down to episode 1 at the bottom, there are two Radio 4 and two Radio
4 Extra broadcasts within a few days of one another, so it is not surprising
there is confusion. All four broadcasts of episode 1 are pointing to the
Radio 4 Extra PID, b096h777.

Best wishes
Richard

RS
2017-10-31 08:47:12 UTC
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From: Don Grunbaum
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:20 AM
Post by Don Grunbaum
44424: The Unbelievable Truth: Series 19 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4, b09d5nlb
INFO: 1 matching programmes
WARNING: No programmes are available for this PID with version(s): default
WARNING: PVR Run: '_The Unbelievable Truth_': 1 download failure(s)
Try --pid b098hpjb

Why get_iplayer search has found the wrong PID I don't know.
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