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BBC JSON feeds to be discontinued from 1st May
tellyaddict
2018-04-12 23:24:41 UTC
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Hi All,
The JSON feeds that are used to get playlist data will be discontinued by the BBC from the 1st May 2018. Has GiP been patched with a fallback to keep it running when this happens?
Owen Smith
2018-04-13 00:16:10 UTC
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What do you mean "patched"? Dinky has the source code, he can make changes without patching anything.
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Post by tellyaddict
Hi All,
The JSON feeds that are used to get playlist data will be discontinued by the BBC from the 1st May 2018. Has GiP been patched with a fallback to keep it running when this happens?
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tellyaddict
2018-04-13 01:01:57 UTC
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I meant has a fix been added into the code to keep GiP going once the JSON feeds go.
Post by Owen Smith
What do you mean "patched"? Dinky has the source code, he can make changes without patching anything.
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Post by tellyaddict
Hi All,
The JSON feeds that are used to get playlist data will be discontinued by the BBC from the 1st May 2018. Has GiP been patched with a fallback to keep it running when this happens?
Owen Smith
2018-04-13 08:38:18 UTC
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I assume it will still be possible to download by PID, but that means using the iPlayer web site to find the PID for the programme. Not great.
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Post by tellyaddict
I meant has a fix been added into the code to keep GiP going once the JSON feeds go.
Post by Owen Smith
What do you mean "patched"? Dinky has the source code, he can make changes without patching anything.
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Post by tellyaddict
Hi All,
The JSON feeds that are used to get playlist data will be discontinued by the BBC from the 1st May 2018. Has GiP been patched with a fallback to keep it running when this happens?
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Peter Scott
2018-04-13 15:21:08 UTC
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Post by Owen Smith
I assume it will still be possible to download by PID, but that means using the iPlayer web site to find the PID for the programme. Not great.
I didn't know JSON feeds were still available. I updated my getPids
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago. It still works; you can get
it here:

https://github.com/cmsps/getPids

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tellyaddict
2018-04-13 17:21:48 UTC
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Thanks Peter.
The question is though, once the JSON feeds do go, where will GiP get the VPIDs from? It needs these to access the playlists to start a download? Will GiP have to start scraping iPlayer programme pages to get these?
Post by Peter Scott
I didn't know JSON feeds were still available. I updated my getPids
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago. It still works; you can get
https://github.com/cmsps/getPids
RS
2018-04-13 19:54:45 UTC
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Post by tellyaddict
Thanks Peter.
The question is though, once the JSON feeds do go, where will GiP get the VPIDs from? It needs these to access the playlists to start a download? Will GiP have to start scraping iPlayer programme pages to get these?
Post by Peter Scott
I didn't know JSON feeds were still available. I updated my getPids
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago. It still works; you can get
https://github.com/cmsps/getPids
I thought get_iplayer was already doing that, and the reason for the
upgrade to v3.13 recently was that the format of the HTML programme
pages had changed. Have I misunderstood?

Best wishes
Richard
Peter Scott
2018-04-13 21:47:45 UTC
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Post by RS
Post by tellyaddict
Thanks Peter.
The question is though, once the JSON feeds do go, where will GiP get
the VPIDs from? It needs these to access the playlists to start a
download? Will GiP have to start scraping iPlayer programme pages to
get these?
I didn't know JSON feeds were still available.  I updated my getPids
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago.  It still works; you can get
       https://github.com/cmsps/getPids
I thought get_iplayer was already doing that, and the reason for the
upgrade to v3.13 recently was that the format of the HTML programme
pages had changed.  Have I misunderstood?
Best wishes
Richard
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I thought that too. I had to update getPids when the HTML changed just
before v3.13 came out.

As far as I remember, I had to switch to the HTML feeds when the first
of the JSON feeds disappeared.

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RS
2018-04-15 09:06:51 UTC
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Post by RS
Post by tellyaddict
Thanks Peter.
The question is though, once the JSON feeds do go, where will GiP get
the VPIDs from? It needs these to access the playlists to start a
download? Will GiP have to start scraping iPlayer programme pages to
get these?
I didn't know JSON feeds were still available.  I updated my getPids
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago.  It still works; you can get
       https://github.com/cmsps/getPids
I thought get_iplayer was already doing that, and the reason for the
upgrade to v3.13 recently was that the format of the HTML programme
pages had changed.  Have I misunderstood?
I thought that too.  I had to update getPids when the HTML changed just
before v3.13 came out.
As far as I remember, I had to switch to the HTML feeds when the first
of the JSON feeds disappeared.
dinky has replied in the forum with this comment.
https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-1749-post-7639.html#pid7639

Best wishes
Richard
Peter Scott
2018-04-15 11:21:52 UTC
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Post by RS
dinky has replied in the forum with this comment.
https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-1749-post-7639.html#pid7639
Things have already started changing. I tried to get:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week

and was re-directed "Permanently" to:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j/this_week

I sometimes think the BBC doesn't want people to use anything other than
smartphones.
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Alan Milewczyk
2018-04-15 15:05:11 UTC
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Post by Peter Scott
Post by RS
dinky has replied in the forum with this comment.
https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-1749-post-7639.html#pid7639
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week
https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j/this_week
It's redirected that way for some time now for radio and TV.
Post by Peter Scott
I sometimes think the BBC doesn't want people to use anything other
than smartphones.
Uh? Sorry, what makes you say that?


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RS
2018-04-13 09:18:45 UTC
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Post by tellyaddict
I meant has a fix been added into the code to keep GiP going once the JSON feeds go.
Post by Owen Smith
What do you mean "patched"? Dinky has the source code, he can make changes without patching anything.
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Post by tellyaddict
Hi All,
The JSON feeds that are used to get playlist data will be discontinued by the BBC from the 1st May 2018. Has GiP been patched with a fallback to keep it running when this happens?
It is not an answer to the question, but I came across this thread. It
is nearly a year old but I thought the third paragraph of the last post
raised an interesting question about the effect of the changes on smart TVs.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.tech.digital-tv/mRrMomusf7k

Best wishes
Richard
artisticforge
2018-04-13 15:57:04 UTC
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hello

at some point this "cat & mouse game" between the BBC and get_iplayer
will come to an end.

I am surprised that it has lasted this long.

I am happy to be able to fetch radio programs.
Post by tellyaddict
Hi All,
The JSON feeds that are used to get playlist data will be discontinued by the BBC from the 1st May 2018. Has GiP been patched with a fallback to keep it running when this happens?
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